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AD 480?-1210

"Etichonids" of Alsace
(Boulogne, Bourges, Bouzonville, Châtenois, Dagsburg, Eguisheim, Flanders, Hamalant, Hohenburg, Longwy, Metz, The Nordgau, The Saargau, Orléans, The Scheldt, The Sundgau, Tours, Lorraine, Monschau, Vaudémont, Vermandois)

(Under construction)

Historical notes on Alsace, Genealogical data

For younger generations of ancestors who are descended from this family:
see page on "Capets" of France
see page on Brabant
see page on Luxembourg
see page on Poitiers
see page on Bar (Mousson)
see page on Holland
see page on Metz
see page on Saarbrücken
see page on Sponheim
see page on Ahr-Hochstaden
see page on Gelre
see page on Flanders (younger branch)

Historical notes on Alsace

Alsace, one of my favourite places in France is bordered in the north by Germany, in the east by the river Rhine which is also the border with Germany, in the south by Switzerland and in the west by the Vosges mountains. Alsace is famous for its white wines, "choucrout" or "Sauerkraut" meals, and its picturesque old towns. From the ridge of the Vosges mountains, the ruins of many castles look down on the Rhine valley. These castles are a reminder that Alsace for many centuries has been in the middle of all conflicts between the "French" and the "Germans" up until the Second World War. In spite of its many outward signs showing Germany's cultural influence over the ages, the Alsace people themselves now seem to feel very much at home inside France. Since the end of the Second World War, the most important achievement has been that there is no place anymore for armed conflict between these two founding members of the European Union.

It took however a very long time to get there. Towards the beginning of the 5th century, the Roman Empire had started to collapse, culminating in the sacking of Rome by the Visigoths in 410. The Roman province of Gaul was also invaded by "barbarian" tribes who created their own kingdoms like that of the Visigoths in Aquitaine. In 451 a new threat appeared at Gaul's eastern border: a massive horde of Huns under their leader Attilla, reinforced by Ostrogoth warriors, and supported by the Vandals, had crossed the Rhine, meeting little resistance. They had no intention to settle peacefully. After destroying Strasbourg and other towns, they went on deeper into Gaul, seemingly unstoppable. The Hun army had laid siege to the fortified city of Orleans, when they were unexpectedly confronted by a large army under Flavius Aetius, "the last of the Romans", who had succeeded to form a military alliance with the Visigoths, the Burgundians, the Franks and other local Christian tribes who saw the pagan Huns and their supporters as their greatest common enemies. The two armies moved into position on the Catalaunian Plains and then fought late Antiquity's greatest battle (the "battle of Châlons"), which may have cost over two hundred thousand lives. Although Aetius' army took heavy losses, the Huns were beaten and were driven out of Gaul, never to return again.

After the Huns' retreat, the Alamanni, a pagan Germanic tribe took control of Alsace. In 496 they were however defeated by the Franks at Tolbiac. In 640, the whole of Alsace became a Duchy as part of the Kingdom of Austrasia under the Merovingian Frankish dynasty. The "Etichonids" family (after Eticho, also Athic, Adalric) became Dukes of Alsace in 662. About 750 AD, at the start of the Karolingian Frankish dynasty, the Duchy of Alsace was divided into two Counties, the Nordgau (the northern part) and the Sudgau (the southern part, later called Sundgau). During the period of disintegration of Charlemagnes's Empire in the 9th and 10th centuries, Alsace became part of the Kingdom of Lorraine, which also disintegrated. In 925 Lorraine was added to the German Empire, of which it formally remained a part until 1648.

The large family-group which is here called "Etichonids of Alsace" for convenience consists of people who were known by many different names. It has proved to be a rather difficult subject to research. The various Internet sources I found so far sometimes give contradictory information on dates of birth and death, and sometimes even on who was a child of whom. Ansbertus (of the Scheldt?) was the son of Tonantius Ferreolus (junior) and of a woman called Deuteria according to most sources I have seen. Some state that Tonantius was a Roman commander in the battle of Châlons in 451, but this seems impossible when his son Ansbertus is supposed to have been born in 506, let alone in 523, as stated by some. Beyond Ansbertus' father the sources contradict one another. His paternal grandfather was either Tonantius Ferreolus (senior), or Sigimerus I (a grandson of the Frankish King Pharamond), who married a daughter (name unknown) of a Roman senator called Tonantius Ferreolus (a brother-in-law of Emperor Avitus).
Also, I do not yet know if and how Aelis of Alsace, the first wife of Robert I, Count of Paris, Duke of Francia, King of France, who probably also belonged to this family, fits into the picture. Perhaps these puzzles will be solved after studying more sources.

Genealogical data

Children of
Unknown
and Unknown

(See 52, 51, 50, 49, 48, 47, 46, 45, 44 generations back)

Tonantius Ferreolus
(267 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000000019 %)
* 480? x Deuteria + 550?

Ruricus, Bishop of Uzes
* ? + ?

Children of
Tonantius Ferreolus (480?-550?)
and Deuteria (480?-540?)

(See 51, 50, 49, 48, 47, 46, 45, 44, 43 generations back)

Ansbertus (of the Scheldt)
(267 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000000039 %)
* 506? x Blithilde (Bilichilde) of Cologne + 570?
Ansbertus was possibly a Gallo-Roman Senator in the Narbonne region in the far south of France. I do not yet know what his connection might have been with the river Scheldt, in the far north.

Agibulfer, Bishop of Metz ?
* ? + ?

Firminius, Bishop of Uzes ?
* ? + ?

Children of
Ansbertus (of the Scheldt) (506?-570?)
and Blithilde (Bilichilde) of Cologne (525?-?)

(See 50, 49, 48, 47, 46, 45, 44, 43, 42 generations back)

Erchenaud (Erchinoald)
(267 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000000078 %)
* 530? x Unknown + ?

Gertrudis
* 530? x Richimir of Bourgogne + ?
For her descendants see the page on (Under construction)

Arnould (Arnulf) (of the Scheldt), Bishop of Metz
* 540? x Oda of Swabia + 601?
For his descendants see the page on (Under construction)

Child of
Erchenaud (Erchinoald) (520-?)
and Unknown

(See 49, 48, 47, 46, 45, 44, 43, 42, 41 generations back)

Leutharius
(267 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000000016 %)
* 555? x Gerberga of Bourgogne + ?

Children of
Leutharius (555-?)
and Gerberga of Bourgogne (?-?)

(See 48, 47, 46, 45, 44, 43, 42, 41 generations back)

Erchembaldus
(267 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000000031 %)
* 580? x Gerberga of France + 661
Erchembaldus was Mayor of the Palace (Major Domo; Hofmeier) for the Merovingian King of Austrasia

Unknown daughter
* 585? x Ansoud +

Child of
Erchembaldus (580?-661)
and Gerberga of France (580?-?)

(See 47, 46, 45, 44, 43, 42, 41, 40 generations back)

Leudefridus II
(267 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000000062 %)
* 610? x Unknown + 680?
Like his father, Leudefridus was Mayor of the Palace.

Child of
Leudefridus II (600?-?)
and Unknown

(See 46, 45, 44, 43, 42, 41, 40, 39 generations back)

Eticho (Athic, Adalric), Duke of Alsace
(267 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,000000012 %)
* 645? x Berswinde of Austrasia (689?) + 20-2-690
Eticho became Duke of Alsace in 662, as successor to Duke Boniface

Children of
Eticho (Athic, Adalric), Duke of Alsace (645?-690)
and Berswinde of Austrasia (649?-700?)

(See 45, 44, 43, 42, 41, 40, 39, 38 generations back)

Saint Odile, Abbess of Hohenburg (?)
* 660? + 13-12-720?
Acccording to her biography, Odile was born blind and was therefore rejected by her father, Duke Eticho. Her birth was kept a secret and she was raised first by a nurse in the town of Scherwiller, and later in the Convent of Baume-les-Dames. When she was about 12, she was baptised by Saint Erhard, the Bishop of Ratisbonne and his brother Saint Hidulphe, the Abbot of Moyen-Moutier. They had come because of a vision the Bishop had had. Indeed a miracle ocurred at the girl's christening: Odile suddenly could see. The news of this miracle reached her father, and eventually she was reunited with her parents. Later, Odile refused to be married off to a German Duke, and instead chose to devote her entire sober life to serving the sick and the poor and spreading the Christian faith. Her father gave in, and about 685 he let her have his castle of Hohenbourg and its dependencies in order to let her transform it into a convent. One of the chapels she had built was miraculously consacrated in 696 by Saint Peter, accompanied by angels. This is where Saint Odile later was buried.

Adalbert I Eticonides, Duke of Alsace
(267 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,000000025 %)
* 675/685? x Gerlinde of Austrasia (719?) + 5-12-741?
Duke Adalbert and his son Luitfried greatly supported existing monasteries and founded many new ones. Adalbert invited monks from Ireland to found a monastery on an island in the Rhine, north of Strasbourg, as a base for their mission activities.

Hugues Eticonides
* ? + ?

(Duke Eticho had two more sons and another daughter)

Children of
Adalbert I Eticonides, Duke of Alsace (675/685?-741?)
and Gerlinde of Austrasia (695?-?)

(See 44, 43, 42, 41, 40, 39, 38, 37 generations back)

Eberhard, Duke of Alsace
* ? + ?

Luitfried I Eticonides, Duke of Alsace
(267 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,000000050 %)
* 707? x Edith + 767

Children of
Luitfried I Eticonides, Duke of Alsace (707-767)
and Edith (720?-?)

(See 43, 42, 41, 40, 39, 38, 37, 36 generations back)

Eberhard I, Count of the Nordgau
(174 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,000000026 %)
* 730? x Unknown + 777?
For his descendants see below

Luitfried II Eticonides, Count of the Sundgau
(93 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,000000073 %)
* 740? x Hiltrude + 802?
For his descendants see below

Children of
Eberhard I, Count of the Nordgau (730?-777?)
and Unknown

(See 42, 41, 40, 39, 38, 37, 36 generations back)

Meginhard of Hamalant
(174 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,000000052 %)
* 755/760? x Unknown + 844?
For his descendants see below

Children of
Luitfried II Eticonides, Count of the Sundgau (740?-780?)
and Hiltrude (744?-?)

(See 41, 40, 39, 38, 37 generations back)

Hugues II of Alsace, Count of Tours and Orléans
(93 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000015 %)
* 765? x Ava (Bava) + 836?

Children of
Hugues II of Alsace, Count of Tours and Orléans (765?-836?)
and Bava (780?-?)

(See 40, 39, 38, 37, 36 generations back)

Ermengarde of Tours
* 804? x Lotharius I, Emperor of Germany (Diedenhofen 15-11-821) + 20-3-851?
For her descendants see the page on (Under construction)

Hugues III, Count of Bourges, Auxerre and Nevers
* 810? x Bava ? + ? (after 853)

Bertha of Tours
* ? + ?

Adélaïde of Tours
(93 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000029 %)
* 819? x I. Conrad I of Auxerre II. Robert "The Strong", Count of Paris (864) + ? (after 866)
For her descendants by Conrad of Auxerre see the page on (under construction)
For her descendants by Robert "The Strong", Count of Paris, see the page on the "Capet" Kings of France

Children of
Meginhard of Hamalant (755?-844?)
and Unknown

(See 41, 40, 39, 38, 37, 36, 35 generations back)

Eberhard II of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau
(174 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000010 %)
* 775? x Evesna + ?

Children of
Eberhard II of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau (775?-?)
and Evesna (777?-?)

(See 40, 39, 38, 37, 36, 35, 34 generations back)

? of Alsace, of the Nordgau
(174 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000021 %)
* 805? x Unknown + ?

Children of
? of Alsace, of the Nordgau (805?-?)
and Unknown

(See 38, 37, 36, 35, 34, 33 generations back)

Hugues I of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau
(174 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000041 %)
* 835? x Unknown + ?

Children of
Hugues I of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau (835?-?)
and Unknown

(See 37, 36, 35, 34, 33, 32 generations back)

Eberhard III Eticonides, of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau
(174 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000083 %)
* 865? x Adallinde (904?) + 910?

Children of
Eberhard III Eticonides, of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau (865?-910?)
and Adallinde (?-?)

(See 36, 35, 34, 33, 32, 31 generations back)

Hugues II Eticonides, of Alsace, of Hohenburg, Count of Dagsburg and of the Nordgau
(174 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000017 %)
* 895? x Hildegarde (924?) + 940?

Children of
Hugues II Eticonides, of Alsace, of Hohenburg, Count of Dagsburg and of the Nordgau (895?-940?)
and Hildegarde (900?-?)

(See 36, 35, 34, 33, 32, 31, 30, 29 generations back)

Eberhard IV of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau
(36 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000073 %)
* 925 x Liutgard of Trier (951) + 8-12-966 (or 18-7-967?)
For his descendants see below
Eberhard's wife Liutgarde had been married before (around 937) to Adalbert I, Count of Metz

Adèle of Dagsburg (of Eguisheim, of Hohenburg, of Leuven)
(40 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000061 %)
* 930? x Reinier III "Longneck", Count of Hainaut (947) + 961
For her descendants see the page on the Dukes of Brabant

Hedwige of the Nordgau
(98 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000020 %)
* 935/937? x Sigefroid (Siegfried), Count of Luxembourg (950?) + 13-12-992
Hedwige and her husband were half-cousins, related in the third degree through their common (grand-)mother Cunigunde of France.
For Hedwige and Siegfried's descendants see the page on the Counts of Luxembourg. They may (or may not) have been the parents of Judith (Jutta) (of Luxembourg?) who married Adalbert I of Alsace, of Lorraine, of Metz, Count of Bouzonville (possibly her cousin), see below.

Children of
Eberhard IV of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau (?-966/967)
and Liutgarde of Trier (915?-975)

(See 33, 32, 31, 30, 29 generations back)

Hugues III of Alsace, of Eguisheim, Count of the Nordgau
(11 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000029 %)
* 951 x Berlinda of Ortenbourg + 5-9-986
For his descendants see below

Adalbert I of Alsace, of Lorraine, Count of the Saargau, Count of Metz, Count of Bouzonville
(25 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000012 %)
* 955? x Judith (Jutta) (of Luxembourg?) + 1033
Adalbert's wife was called Judith or Jutta, and she may or may not have been a daughter of Siegfried of Luxembourg and Hedwige of the Nordgau. If so, she and her husband were first cousins, see above. According to other sources, Adalbert's wife was Judith of Schwaben, or even yet another Judith: of Öhningen, who is also named as the mother of Hedwige of Dagsburg, the wife of Hugues IV of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau, see below. All of these Judiths seem to have been born around 960. I will try to find out using more sources how these people fit together. All sources that I have found so far agree that Albert and "Judith" were the parents of Gérard I, Count of Bouzonville, Count of Metz, who married Gisèle (of Metz), see below.

Adélaïde of Eguisheim, of Metz
* 960/970 x Heinrich I, Count in the Speyergau (989?) + 19-10-1040

Children of
Hugues III of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau (951-986)
and Berlinda of Ortenbourg (950?-?)

(See 31, 30, 29 generations back)

Hugues IV of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau
(11 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000057 %)
* 975 x Hedwige of Dagsburg + 1046
Hugues' wife Hedwige may have been the daughter of Louis of Dagsburg and Judith of Öhningen.
For their descendants see below

Children of
Adalbert I of Alsace, of Lorraine, Count of the Saargau, Count of Metz, Count of Bouzonville (950/955?-1033)
and Judith (Jutta) (of Luxembourg) ? (960?-1022?)

(See 32, 31, 30, 29 generations back)

Gérard I of Alsace, Count of Bouzonville, Count of Metz
(18 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000022 %)
* 980? x Gisèle (of Metz) + 1046
For his descendants see below

Adalbert II of Longwy-Metz, Duke of Upper-Lorraine
(25 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000023 %)
* 1005 x Clémence of Foix + 11-11-1048 (Thuin, Belgium)
Adalbert was made Duke of Upper-Lorraine in 1047 during the failed insurrection led by Godefroid II "The Bearded", see the page on Lorraine.
For Adalbert's descendants see below

Children of
Gérard I of Alsace, Count of of Bouzonville, Count of Metz (980?-1046)
and Gisèle (of Metz) (?-?)

(See 30, 29, 28 generations back)

Gérard II of Alsace, Count of Bouzonville, Count of Châtenois, Duke of Upper-Lorraine
(18 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000044 %)
* 1030? x Hedwige of Namur + 6-3-1070 (Remiremont)
For his descendants see below

Children of
Hugues IV of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau (975-1046)
and Hedwige of Dagsburg (980-1046)

(See 30, 29, 28 generations back)

? of the Nordgau
(8 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000069 %)
* 995 x Otto of Schwaben (1014) + ?
For her descendants see the page on Brabant

Bruno of Eguisheim, Bishop of Toul, Pope (Saint) Leo IX
* 1002 + 1054
As Bishop of Toul, appointed in 1026, Bruno was already an important Church reformer. His cousin, Emperor (Saint) Heinrich II managed to have Bruno chosen Pope at the Conference of Worms on 25-12-1048, but Bruno did only accept after having gained the full support of the Church. He was crowned in Rome on 12-2-1049.

Gertrude of the Nordgau
* 1005 x Liudolf Billungen, Count of East-Friesland + 21-7-1077

Hugues V of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau
(8 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000068 %)
* 1010? x Mathilde (Mahaut) of Eename + 1049
For his descendants see below

Gérard III of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau
(3 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000047 %)
* 1020 x Kuniza / Rigarda ? + 1083
For his descendants see below

Hildegard of Dagsburg, of Eguisheim
* ? x Richwin of Mömpelgard + ?
For her descendants see the page on (Under construction)

Bitzila of Eguisheim
* ? x Adalbert of Calw + ?
For her descendants see the page on (Under construction)

Children of
Adalbert II of Longwy-Metz (1005-1048)
and Clémence of Foix (after 1010-?)

(See 31, 29, 28, 27 generations back)

Ermesinde of Longwy (of Lorraine)
(25 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000047 %)
* 1028 x Pierre of Poitou / Guillaume VII, Duke of Aquitaine (1041) + 1068 (Rome)
For her descendants see the page on Poitiers (Poitou, Aquitaine)

Etiennette of Longwy-Metz
* 1035 x Guillaume I "The Great" of Bourgogne and Macon (1043) + 1092
For her descendants see the page on (Under construction)

Children of
Gérard II of Alsace, Duke of Upper-Lorraine (1030?-1070)
and Hedwige of Namur (1030-1075)

(See 29, 28, 27 generations back)

Thierry (Diederik, Dirk) I/II of Alsace, Count of Bouzonville, Duke of Upper-Lorraine
(15 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000067 %)
* 1055/1060? x I. Hedwig of Formbach (1075) II. Geertruid of Flanders (1095) + 23-1-1115
The various sources give conflicting information on who was the mother of Thierry's children, Hedwig or Geertruid.
For his descendants presumably by Hedwig of Formbach see below
For his descendants presumably by Geertruid of Flanders see below

Gérard I, Count of Vaudémont, Duke of Upper-Lorraine
(3 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000093 %)
* 1060? x Hedwige (Heilwig) of Eguisheim, of the Nordgau + ? (before 1118)
Gérard's wife Hedwige was related to him through their common second great-grandparents Eberhard IV of the Nordgau and Liutgard of Trier, see above
For Gérard and Hedwige's descendants see below

Beatrix of Lorraine
* 1060? x Etienne I "The Bold", Duke of Bourgogne + 1102
For her descendants see the page on (Under construction)

Child of
Hugues V of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau (1010?-1049)
and Mathilde (Mahaut) of Eename (1015?-?)

(See 29, 28 generations back)

Henri of the Nordgau
(8 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000014 %)
* 1040? x ? of Moha + 1065
For his descendants see below

Child of
Gérard III of Alsace, Count of the Nordgau (1020-1083)
and Kuniza / Rigarda ? (?-?)

(See 27 generations back)

Hedwige (Heilwig) of Eguisheim, of Dagsburg, of the Nordgau
(3 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,00000093 %)
* 1070 x Gérard I, Count of Vaudémont, Duke of Upper-Lorraine + 29-11-1126
Hedwige's husband Gerard was related to her through their common second great-grandparents Eberhard IV of the Nordgau and Liutgard of Trier, see above.

Children of
Gérard I, Count of Vaudémont, Duke of Upper-Lorraine (1060?-before 1118)
and Hedwige (Heilwig) of Eguisheim, of Dagsburg, of the Nordgau (1070-1126)

(See 26 generations back)

Gisèle of Lorraine-Vaudémont
(3 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000019 %)
* 1090 Renaud I "The One-Eyed", Count of Bar + ? (after 1141)
For her descendants see the page on the Counts of Bar (Mousson)

Stephanie of Lorraine-Vaudémont
* ? x Friedrich I, Count of Mömpelgard and Pfirt + ?

Child of
Henri of the Nordgau (1040?-1065)
and ? of Moha (1040?-?)

(See 28, 27 generations back)

Adalbert of the Nordgau
(8 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000027 %)
* 1065 x Ermesinde I of Luxembourg (1096?) + 1101
Adalbert's widow Ermesinde married Godefroi I, Count of Namur in 1109, and she also became our ancestor together with her second husband.
For Adalbert's descendants see below

Children of
Thierry (Diederik, Dirk) I/II of Alsace, Duke of Upper-Lorraine (1055/1060?-1115)
and Hedwig of Formbach (?-?)

(See 27 generations back)

Petronilla of Lorraine
(3 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000048 %)
* between 1082/1100? x I. Floris II, Count of Holland (around 1113?) x II. Lambert de Montaigu + 23-5-1144
The wife of Floris II, Count of Holland, is sometimes mistakenly called Geertruid (Petronilla) of Saxony by some sources. This is possibly due to a mix-up with another person called Geertruid (Gertrude) who may have been Petronilla's half-sister, the daughter of Thierry's second wife Geertruid of Flanders, see below.
For Petronilla's descendants by her first husband see the page on the Counts of Holland
For her descendants by her second husband (who do not seem to be our ancestors) see the page on De Montaigu

Simon of Upper-Lorraine ?
* 1115? + 1129
This was probably a different Simon from the one mentioned below, causing some confusion.

Children of
Adalbert of the Nordgau (1065-1101)
and Ermesinde I of Luxembourg (1082?-1143)

(See 30, 29, 28, 27, generations back)

Mathilde of Dagsburg-Moha
(7 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000039 %)
* 1098? x Folkmar V of Metz (1120?) + 1135
For her descendants see the page on Metz

Hugues VII of Alsace, of the Nordgau
(1 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000015 %)
* 1100? x Gertrude of Looz + 1137
For his descendants see below

Children of
Thierry (Diederik, Dirk) I/II of Alsace, Duke of Upper-Lorraine (1055/1060?-1115)
and Geertruid of Flanders (1050?-1117)

(See 27, 26 generations back)

Simon I, Duke of Upper-Lorraine
* 1076? x Adélaïde of Hainaut + 14-1-1139?
(5 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000048 %)
There is confusion in the various sources about Simon's mother: it was either Thierry's first wife Hedwig of Formbach or his second wife Geertruid of Flanders. Assuming that there was another Simon who died young, I stick to the second theory.
For the descendants of Simon and Adélaïde see below

Gisèle of Upper-Lorraine
(1 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000015 %)
* 1095? x Friedrich I, Count of Saarbrücken + ? (before 1126)
For her descendants see the page on the Counts of Saarbrücken

Thierry (Diederik, Dirk) III of Alsace, Count of Flanders
(6 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000071 %)
* 1100? x I. Swanhilde II. Sybille of Anjou + 4-1-1168
Thierry, who was a grandson of Count Robrecht I "De Fries" through his mother, became Count of Flanders in 1128 with the support of Ghent and the other cities and the support of the King of England. He and his allies fought a war of succession with Count Willem Clito who had the support of the nobility and of the King of France, but who lost his life in the battle of Aalst in 1128. Thierry's victory forever changed the political balance in favour of the cities in Flanders, which could now develop more freely.
For his descendants by his first wife Swanhilde see below
For his descendants by his second wife Sybille see below

(Possibly:)
Gertrude of Lorraine (= Geertruid of Saxony!?)
* ? + ?
This hypothetical daughter may have been mixed-up with Petronilla of Lorraine, the wife of Floris II, Count of Holland, see above. It should noticed that this Gertrude's mother was Geertruid of Flanders, who's mother was Gertrude of Saxony.

Children of
Hugues VII of the Nordgau (1100?-1137)
and Gertrude of Looz (1100?-?)

(See 25 generations back)

Pétronille of Dagsburg
* 1120? x Liébard II ... + ?

Hugues VIII of Alsace, of the Nordgau
(1 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,000003 %)
* 1122? x Lutgardis (Liutgard) of Sulzbach (1143) + 1178
Hugues' wife Lutgardis had been married before to Godfried II, Count of Leuven
For his descendants see below

Clémence of Dagsburg
* 1125? x Heinrich I of Salm? + ? (before 1169)

Children of
Simon I, Duke of Upper-Lorraine (1076?-1139?)
and Adélaïde of Hainaut (?-?)

(See 28, 27, 26 generations back)

Bertha of Lorraine
* ? x Hermann III of Baden (before 1134) + ?

Mathilde of Lorraine
(3 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000075 %)
* 1119 (Nancy) x Gottfried I of Sponheim + ?
For her descendants see the page on Sponheim

Agatha of Lorraine
* ? x Renaud III of Bourgogne and Macon (1142) + ?

Matthaeus of Upper-Lorraine
(3 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000024 %)
* 1122 x Bertha (Judith?) of Schwaben (1138) + 1176

Children of
Matthaeus of Upper-Lorraine (1122-1176)
and Bertha (Judith?) of Schwaben (?-?)

(See 27, 25 generations back)

Frédéric I of Upper-Lorraine
(3 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000048 %)
* 1143? x Wierchoslava (Ludmilla) Piast (before 1167) + 7-3-1208
For his descendants see below

Children of
Frédéric I of Upper-Lorraine (1122-1176)
and Wierchoslava (Ludmilla) Piast (1148-1223)

(See 26, 24 generations back)

Frédéric II of Upper-Lorraine
* 1170? x Agnès of Bar (before 1187) + 1213
Frédéric's wife was a daughter of our ancestor Thibault (Diebold) I, Count of Bar-Mousson and Adelheid (Laurette?) of Looz, Thibault's first wife.

Judith of Upper-Lorraine
* 1170? x Heinrich II of Salm (1189?) + 1224

Matthaeus of Upper-Lorraine
* 1170? + 1217

Kunegunde of Upper-Lorraine (of Monschau)
(3 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000097 %)
* 1175? x Walram IV, "Duke of Limburg", Count of Luxembourg + 1213
For her descendants see the page on Luxembourg

Henri of Upper-Lorraine
* 1175? + ? (before 1190?)

Philippe of Upper-Lorraine
* 1175? + ?

Thierry "The Devil" of Upper-Lorraine
* 1180? x Gertrude de Montmorency + 1225

Henri of Upper-Lorraine
* 1190? x I. ? de Pesmes (before 1220) II. Sophie (23-4-1256) + 1261

Hedwig of Upper-Lorraine
* 1190? x Heinrich I of Zweibrücken? + 1228
Hedwig's husband was the son of Simon I of Saarbrücken and Mathilde of Sponheim, who according to some sources was also (or instead?) married to Hedwig of Kirburg

Children of
Hugues VIII of the Nordgau (1122?-1178)
and Liutgard of Sulzbach (1115?-1162)

(See 24 generations back)

Liutgard of the Nordgau
(1 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,000006 %)
* 1155? x Dietrich of Ahr-Hochstaden (1170?) + 1200
For her descendants see the page on Ahr-Hochstaden

Children of
Thierry (Diederik, Dirk) III of Alsace, Count of Flanders (1100?-1168)
and Swanhilde (?-?)

(See 25 generations back)

Laurette of Upper-Lorraine
(1 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,000003 %)
* 1130 x I. Hendrik II of Arlon, "Duke" of Limburg; II. Henri IV "The Blind" of Namur (1154); Hendrik II of Wassenberg (1163) + 1175
For the family of her first husband see the page on Limburg
For the family of her second husband see the page on Namur
For her descendants by her third husband see the page on Gelre

Children of
Thierry (Diederik, Dirk) III of Alsace, Count of Flanders (1100?-1168)
and Sybille of Anjou (?-?)

(See 27, 25 generations back)

Philipe of Alsace, Count of Flanders and of Vermandois
* ? x Elisabeth of Vermandois (1156) + 1191 (Akko)
Philipe married Elisabeth, heir to the County of Vermandois, and greatly increased his political influence. After Elisabeth's death, Philipe became Count of Vermandois as well. He was appointed counsellor to the King Philipe II "Augustus" of France, who was then only 15 years old. Count Philipe arranged the marriage between the young King Philipe and his own niece Isabella of Flanders (of Hainaut) in 1180 to secure his influence with the French King, in exchange for his late wife's possessions. This dowry was only to be transferred to the French king after Count Philipe's death, but it was probably not really the intention of Count Philipe to transfer it at all. King Philipe Augustus also must have had his doubts and he did in any case not want to wait for the outcome. He made war on his former teacher between 1181 and 1186. When news of Count Philipe's death of the plague in Akko in 1191 during the Third Crusade reached him, the French king immediately seized the opportunity of this sudden power vacuum and launched a military operation resulting in the occupation of the south of Flanders. He was prevented from taking the north too by Count Boudewijn V of Hainaut who had become the new Count of Flanders through his wife Margaretha, who was the late Count Philipe's legal heir (see below). Count Boudewijn was informed of his predecessor's death sooner than the French king, and had not wasted any time to organise the defence against the French attack he correctly expected.

Margaretha of Alsace, of Flanders
(2 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000045 %)
* 1135? x Boudewijn V, Count of Hainaut / Boudewijn VIII of Flanders (Le Quesnoy ?-7-1169) + 15-11-1194
Margaretha became the heir to the County of Flanders after her brother had died in 1191. The title was then transferred to her husband Boudewijn. For their descendants see the page on the Counts of Flanders.

Matthaeus of Alsace, Count of Boulogne
(3 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,0000067 %)
* 1137 ? x Mary of England (of Boulogne, of Blois, of Ramsey) (1160) + 25-7-1173 (Driencourt)
Matthaeus became Count of Boulogne in 1159 through his wife because the last male heir had died.

Children of
Matthaeus of Alsace, Count of Boulogne (1137?-1173)
and Mary of England (of Boulogne, of Blois, of Ramsey) (1136-1182)

(See 26, 24 generations back)

Ida of Alsace (of Lorraine, of Boulogne)
* ? x Renaud I of Dammartin, Count of Boulogne + ?
Ida's husband inherited the title of Count of Boulogne in 1173 because his father-in law Mattheus of Alsace died without male heirs.

Mathilde of Alsace (of Lorraine, of Boulogne)
(3 times our ancestor, blood-relationship 0,000013 %)
* 1165 ? x Hendrik I, Duke of Brabant (before 30-3-1180) + 1210?
For their descendants see the page on the Dukes of Brabant

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