All would be better than France was promised by the organizers of Sebnitz 2002. This was said and promised in and after France 2 years ago... With great expectation we already went on Thursday morning
the 11 th of July direction Sebnitz. We have been visiting the Sebnitz
competition since 1991 every year , only last year we didn't go because of some cardiovascular
problem on my side.
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On Friday we did some inspection by bike, we brought our own mountain bikes with us. The expected parking problems was a reason for us to do as many things as possible by bike which worked out very well. On Saturday we visited the training combat area and
were unpleasantly surprised by the fact that this was completely not level at
all. A world championships unworthy and no toilets here, what is happening??
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![]() ![]() | The competition itself. When we start at he final I can only say that I am so enormously happy that 2 sportive pilots entered the final, namely Mike Willcox and Boris Faisov, that I could live with (had to anyway) whatever result. The flight before the final flights (they flew 2 times) between Volodmyr Vesich and Mike ended in a very NON sportive action of Vesich (he attacked the model of Mike who was flying level and had no streamer left) and was therefore happily disqualified. Vesich showed his real face in front of the model flying world!! As you might know I am not a real Ukrainian combat fan. They have in all aspects better equipment and more facilities than we normal hobby guys have. But what a shame that they can't stand loosing. Vesich had for me always the benefit of the doubt, but now he can be placed (my opinion) at one level with Yuvenko, Milenin and Adrei Beliav (Russia) when it is about loosing and NON sportive flying. I am very hard in this matter because we see them (Ukrainians) almost every competition in Europe, they always show up because the competitions are World cup competitions. Imagine, this year we only had 6 German pilots on the German World cup competition (normally 15 or more), the other Germans probably stayed home because they are sick off it flying against Ukrainians. Maybe that the world cup is no good for combat. It will maybe end up with that nobody buys stuff from them anymore, what's the fun for them then?? The problem is that world cup competitions is important for the professionals and not for the hobby type. Unfortunately we almost don't have non world cup competitions anymore. I will probably skip Bitterfeld from my list for next year and go out for a short bicycling holiday. |
Line check area (organized by Enrico Vogel) was very well organized, enough staff and a good atmosphere. Pilots must have had a good feeling about it, no stress at all, well done guys!!! All checks were done with respect off the model and engine owners. Circle marshal: Mack Henry, yes, the Mack Henry, he is the best and managed to do all rounds except for round 3 what I remember. He is a great consistency in the circle, well, he is LOUD!! Rest of the jury: I had the idea that things went very smoothly, this is a team that has been working for years and I would like to thank Vernon Hunt, Ingemar Larrson, Rob Olijve and Guido Michiels a lot. It is a pity that Guido stops being jury after this WC but man, they did a good job. Imagine 86 pilots, over 200 bouts, and with style!!!! Timekeepers, cut counters: They must have been good (for me at least). Spectators saw different things (also different angle) but they deserve a big kiss from my wife for all their work. It is unbelievable that they were able to concentrate so long and I can't remember a complaining pilot. Well, I didn't see every bout or knew what the result was. They were very very good. My compliments. And than the contest director for F2D, ANDREA KIEL, yes in capital. Behind the curtains (Dutch saying) she must have solved some problems. We didn't see here so much so she must have done an outstanding good job. We knew she was good but here she showed (nobody probably saw) her best. Andrea, thanks a lot. Score counting: I remember Gerda Michiels doing it and Katrien Herbert filling in the results on the boards. Besides 1 mistake on the boards (and an excuse for it) they also did a very good job. Maybe there were more people involved but I had to fly some times so I must probably have missed some things.
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Fly-aways: We had 11 fly-aways (plus some more that did
not enter the fly-away zone) which makes it about 5 %
which is far too high. We were very lucky this time AGAIN. In one fly-away the
model flew with full speed into the beer can that Stanislaw Culacichin was just opening. He had never seen the flown away model and the engine exactly
hit the beer can in the middle. After the smoke went down everybody started laughing
about this situation but this was luck, big big luck that he was not hit. The
model would have hit his face. 1 Day later an extra high security fence
was built up, this was available for days??? ![]() As you can read above I take this matter serious and if we
as pilots don't do anything others will decide for us in the future. This could be
a money saving solution and I hope you will all support me. | Subject: Fly-aways in F2D Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:13:14 +0200 From: Loet Wakkerman <wakkerman.f2d@wxs.nl> Organization: WAK-Engines To: "ciam-f2@fai.org" <ciam-f2@fai.org> Hallo, During and after the recent WC in Sebnitz I have been thinking about the big amount of fly-aways in F2D combat. Solutions to solve this problems were told to me by several persons. Thicker lines, smaller engines, shut off systems are in my opinion not the right solutions. Thicker lines won't solve the problem, I foresee more models crossing through the circle. 1.5 cc Engines will destroy the fun 1.5 cc classes in several countries. Shut-offs make the construction more difficult and more expensive and is not working always. The way to reduce the amount off fly-aways is lowering the power of the engines. A combat bout with slower models is less destructive in any aspect. My idea is: We have 2 simple and adequate devices which are named venturi and silencer. We could make the venturi smaller, lets say 3 mm diameter and reduce at the same moment the rearmost end of the silencer to 6 mm diameter. This will reduce power (speed), noise. I have the possibilities to make some venturis and silencer in the next 2 weeks and test them at he competition in Grave Holland. Rob Metkemeyer will do the dB measurements. I will focus on a 3 and 3.5 mm diameter venturi and silencer rearmost end with 6 and 7 mm diameter As fanatic combat pilot I also like to fly as fast as possible but I foresee problems in the near future if we let it go. Up till now, happily, nothing serious has happened but we were very close this time. Please give me your opinion about this subject. Loet Wakkerman |
What did we see more: - the juniors were all flying amazingly well, remember
Martin
Zvara 12 years old
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![]() ![]() | The need to have a team and a practicing field. Since years we have a real team, lets say from 1995 for World and European championships. In 1995 we Dutch had Henning Forbech (Denmark) as mechanic in the Dutch team and then you really start believing
that there is a god who has sent him. Well, to be honest, I don't believe in a God
but I must admit that I don't do enough for my atheism enough too.
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| Place | No. | Name | Nation | Round | |||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | |||||
| 1 | D83 | WILCOX Michael | United States of America | W | W | W | W | W | W | W | W | W | L | W | |
| 2 | D63 | FAIZOV Boris | Russian Federation | W | W | W | W | W | L | W | W | W | L | ||
| 3 | D78 | VESICH Volodymyr | Ukraine | W | W | W | L | W | W | W | W | L | |||
| 4 | D07 | ZHOLNERKEVITCH Igor | Belarus | L | W | W | W | W | W | W | L | ||||
| 4 | D16 | KUCERA Pavel | Czech Rep. | W | W | W | W | L | W | W | L | ||||
| 4 | D57 | GIBSON Bryce | New Zealand | W | W | W | W | L | W | W | L | ||||
| 7 | D11 | MACKENZIE Ivan | Canada | W | W | W | W | L | W | L | |||||
| 7 | D31 | RIERA I ROMAGOSA Xavier | France | W | W | L | W | W | W | L | |||||
| 7 | D35 | SCHWARZ Johann | Germany | W | W | W | W | W | L | L | |||||
| 7 | D44 | MAZEIKIS Andrius | Lithuania | W | W | W | W | W | L | L | |||||
| 7 | D82 | CRANFILL Donald | United States of America | W | W | L | W | W | W | L | |||||
| 12 | D08 | DANILUSHKIN Siarhei | Belarus | W | W | W | W | L | L | ||||||
| 12 | D48 | DEMENTIEV Igor | Moldova | W | W | W | L | W | L | ||||||
| 12 | D55 | WAKKERMAN Loet | Netherlands | W | W | L | W | W | L | ||||||
| 12 | D64 | BELIAEV Andrei | Russian Federation | W | W | W | L | W | L | ||||||
| 12 | D25 jun. | PICARDO Cesar | Spain | W | L | W | W | W | L | ||||||
| 12 | D32 | WHILLANCE Mike | United Kingdom | L | W | W | W | W | L | ||||||
| 18 | D12 | MACKENZIE Pat | Canada | W | W | L | W | L | |||||||
| 18 | D19 | BJERAGER Ole | Denmark | W | L | W | W | L | |||||||
| 18 | D36 | HENTSCHEL Lothar | Germany | W | W | L | W | L | |||||||
| 18 | D39 | ZAIKIN Vadim | Israel | W | W | L | W | L | |||||||
| 18 | D50 | CULACICHIN Stanislaw | Moldova | L | W | W | W | L | |||||||
| 18 | D68 | CHEE HAU Ching | Singapore | W | W | W | L | L | |||||||
| 18 | D23 | FRIAS Juan Carlos | Spain | W | W | W | L | L | |||||||
| 18 | D24 | GARCIA Juan Jose | Spain | W | L | W | W | L | |||||||
| 18 | D75 jun. | SJÖLUND Mikael | Sweden | L | W | W | W | L | |||||||
| 27 | D01 | KÖNIGSHOFER Rudolf | Austria | L | W | W | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D09 | SNITKO Vitaly | Belarus | L | W | W | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D13 | LOVGREN David | Canada | W | L | W | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D17 | SLEZAK Lubomir | Czech Rep. | W | L | W | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D37 | WALLNER Andreas | Germany | W | L | W | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D88 | PROKOFJEVS Aleksandrs | Latvia | W | W | L | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D45 | PECKYS Linas | Lithuania | W | W | L | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D46 | RASTENIS Audrius | Lithuania | W | W | L | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D49 | DEMENTIEV Sergiu | Moldova | W | L | W | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D54 | WAKKERMAN Monique | Netherlands | W | L | W | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D56 | OLIJVE Rik | Netherlands | W | L | W | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D58 | WELLINGTON Adrian | New Zealand | W | L | W | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D59 | LESZCZAK Marcin | Poland | W | W | L | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D66 jun. | BELOV Alexandre | Russian Federation | W | W | L | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D73 | KARLSSON Niklas | Sweden | W | L | W | L | ||||||||
| 27 | D33 | GRANGE Peter | United Kingdom | L | W | W | L | ||||||||
| 43 | D02 | MÜHLPARZER Armin | Austria | W | L | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D03 | STAFFEL Günter | Austria | L | W | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D04 | LIBER Robert | Belgium | W | L | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D15 | MAREK Ladislav | Czech Rep. | L | W | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D18 jun. | ZVARA Martin | Czech Rep. | L | W | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D21 | FORBECH Henning | Denmark | L | W | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D26 | VALO Jari | Finland | L | W | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D28 | FORSS Timo | Finland | W | L | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D38 jun. | MÖBIUS Anja | Germany | L | W | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D52 | SILVA Leonardo | Mexico | W | L | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D60 | KURAS Dariusz | Poland | L | W | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D67 | HWEE BENG Ang | Singapore | L | W | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D69 | CHIEN KANG Chang | Singapore | W | L | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D70 jun. | HOE MUN Chiang | Singapore | W | L | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D71 | KRNA Milan | Slovakia | L | W | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D77 | MILENIN Igor | Ukraine | L | W | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D79 | YUVENKO Vasyl | Ukraine | W | L | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D80 jun. | SOSHNINA Olga | Ukraine | W | L | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D34 | JONES Mervyn | United Kingdom | L | W | L | |||||||||
| 43 | D81 | TUPPER Rich | United States of America | L | W | L | |||||||||
| 63 | D85 jun. | NADIG Patricio | Argentina | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D05 | JANSSENS Jean-Claude | Belgium | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D06 | JANSSENS Dimitri | Belgium | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D14 | XIAOQIANG Xia | China Peoples Rep. | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D20 | PEDERSEN Christian | Denmark | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D27 | LEINO Laura | Finland | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D29 jun. | FORSS Lasse | Finland | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D30 | BERNARD Claude | France | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D40 | ZEILIKOVICH Andrey | Israel | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D41 | CANTATORE Antonello | Italy | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D42 | MANCINI Ettore | Italy | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D43 | MOTTA Orazio | Italy | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D87 | BROKANS Peteris | Latvia | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D47 jun. | ZUBAS Dominykas | Lithuania | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D51 | QUEZADA Federico | Mexico | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D86 jun. | DE RIDDER Sven | Netherlands | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D61 | LESZCZAK Marek | Poland | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D62 jun. | SOBALA Piotr | Poland | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D65 | BOLSHAKOVA Svetlana | Russian Federation | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D22 | ROURA Jordi | Spain | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D72 | FÄLLGREN Bengt-Åke | Sweden | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D74 | ANDERSSON Johan | Sweden | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D76 | CHORNYY Stanislav | Ukraine | L | L | ||||||||||
| 63 | D84 jun. | MEARS Nick | United States of America | L | L | ||||||||||